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Comedian Zainab Johnson talks about her new special, 'Toxically Optimistic'

NPR | By Leila Fadel

Published October 27, 2026 at 2:48 AM MDT

NPR's Leila Fadel speaks with comedian Zainab Johnson about her new stand-up special on Netflix: "Toxically Optimistic."

Leila Fadel

Leila Fadel is a host of Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.